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Etang · May 08, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

I have already put 100+ hours into this game and I have yet to see a good ranger. I have had a ton of one on ones with rangers and they all end up running away. And I the only one that thinks rangers are broken?

FYI I am a monk/ele.

SOT · May 08, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

I'm a ranger/mesmer and I have no issues at all. I would love to pvp you to death someday

Textural · May 08, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

IMO, I think rangers are the worst at soloing. They're better off as a party member because they need more than just a pet to tank while they snipe.

But afterall, GW is a team weighted game so I don't think it's fair to base it on a "one on one". :/

SOT · May 08, 2005, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by darkmagnolia

IMO, I think rangers are the worst at soloing. They're better off as a party member because they need more than just a pet to tank while they snipe.

But afterall, GW is a team weighted game so I don't think it's fair to base it on a "one on one". :/

Well, as I tried to tell another poster, I cannot recall its name, something like psychototic or some nonsense, I have made it nearly to Lion's Arch without anything but a healer/fighter, and necro BOT.

I am a ranger, so I must be doing something right...I only use ONE ranger skill for solo adventuring. Mesmer all the rest. I am doing fairly well. So I am confused about this thread

Pevil Lihatuh · May 08, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59

my ranger with about 80 hours play on certainly doesn't suck thank you :P she was using mostly mesmer skills but now i've switched to all ranger skills she kicks ass. as long as you concentrate on making a couple of really strong points then you should do fine.

you're not the only one; someone else started a thread like this. but like this one, the majority of replies disagreed

Rangers in GW just don't fit your play style/frame of mind I guess. Or maybe you just played against some people who really suck at strategy; or dont want to die.

sadrobot · May 08, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

right now i am lvl 14 R/N and i am starting to have issues with my ranger half. recently i just respecced to almost all necro. in psp i can lay out decent constant dmg but that is it. distracting shot is amazing but most of the rest is boosting damage. though even using skills it still takes a decnet ammount of time to kill people. i kinda agree with rangers being broken ( all of you say that you only use a few ranger things......because they kinda suck?)

Dreamsmith · May 08, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by Etang

I have had a ton of one on ones with rangers and they all end up running away. And I the only one that thinks rangers are broken?

I've run in to tons and tons of warriors in the arena that end up running away. Same with elementalists, necromancers, mesmers, and monks. I guess all the classes are broken.

Or wait, maybe it's just that most people in the Arena aren't very good players.

Ah well, nevermind. Even though you've never even played a ranger, I'm sure your impression of how good rangers are, based on nothing but watching them in the Arena, is perfectly valid. I know when I've never even tried something, I'm nevertheless fully qualified in pronouncing how worthwhile it is.

A11Eur0 · May 08, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Rangers are a good all-around profession, no real skills that are worth focusing on, at least from what I see. They're a great support character, but definitely not a primary. That's pretty disheartening coming from LOTR's Aragorn, who kicked all kinds of behind.

sadrobot · May 09, 2005, 02:35 AM // 02:35

i made a ranger primary as i said b4 and therer is no reason to other than maybe the armour or trench coats :P

Etang · May 09, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

I've run in to tons and tons of warriors in the arena that end up running away. Same with elementalists, necromancers, mesmers, and monks. I guess all the classes are broken.

Or wait, maybe it's just that most people in the Arena aren't very good players.

Ah well, nevermind. Even though you've never even played a ranger, I'm sure your impression of how good rangers are, based on nothing but watching them in the Arena, is perfectly valid. I know when I've never even tried something, I'm nevertheless fully qualified in pronouncing how worthwhile it is.

I have a lvl 19 R/E its just that I like Mo/E much better that 4 energy regen kicks ass.

FrodoFraggins · May 09, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I've met alot of bad rangers. It's a popular class. I've also met rangers that know what skills to bring to the table, and completely own me.

WraithlordGV · May 09, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I think the rangers that give their class a bad name are the ones who focus entirely on damage, the truly effective ranger focuses on control, and burst damage *when it is needed*

You see a monk peel off from the fight to go res a fallen teammate, he is under attack of course, but healing fairly well, the critical point comes where a nice pin down, and power shot will put him out of the game for good.

You see a ele winding up a huge aoe, poof, distract or savage.

You see a tard hex spammer, use your energy drain shot. Thats your job, you are an opportunist.

again, just my opinion

SOT · May 09, 2005, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by FrodoFraggins

I've met alot of bad rangers. It's a popular class. I've also met rangers that know what skills to bring to the table, and completely own me.

Finally someone admits it

Manderlock · May 09, 2005, 07:15 AM // 07:15

I dont belive that i have ever been pwned by a ranger, this is because rangers are for support. If a ranger is doing to much dmg, ill go hamstring and kill him. That being said say Im going to rez our fallen priest, all of a sudden im on my ass. Or me and a warrior a duking it out I have the uperhand, but then im psned and there is NOTHING I can do about it. That is what rangers are for, and can be VERY benificel to a good team.

Psykewne · May 09, 2005, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Well i play a ranger/necro and to be honest my first attempt i tried to balance the various ranger skills including a pet plus the necro blood and curse line. It did not go well.

My rebuilt version i ended up with uses only ranger stuff now, with high marksmanship and expertise, a good wilderness survival and a few points in beast mastery i do very well.

I carry one preparation for my arrows, healing spring and whirling defence as my life savers if i get attacked heavily in melee. distracting shot, hunters shot, pin down and charm and comfort animal.

With this set up using a long bow i prepare my arrows, and aim for a pin down first on the most advatageous target (in pve i usually initiate the fight with this) drop a hunters shot to set that target or another runner bleeding. (if im using poison arrows then the enemy is degenning nicely)

Then ill switch to watching the most dangerous caster and use distracting shot to disable skills. If an ally is having trouble and running it lets me set their chaser bleeding with hunters or i can pin down and let my ally escape.

If i get surrounded or heavily targeted i activate whirling defence which lets me set my healing spring while under fire and i proceed to retaliate fire. Whirling defence lets me run if im engaged in heavy melee while avoiding most damage.

So as you can see i deliver effects (can't wait to get those immolation arrows), bleeding, poison, burning, splash, cripple. Can interrupt and disable skills with distracting shot and can survive if i become under fire. I can also aid other team mates in escaping trouble.

For pvp i can take debilitating shot to further hurt casters. I would drop the pet most likely for pvp.

So far i've found that im quite comfortable in most pve parties and have had a blast in random team pvp where i often am found making the warriors limp around bleeding and upset casters disrupting and snatching energy...

So rangers are great really, if i were to mix in some necro stuff for pve i would add blood magic for better self healing, but for pvp go with curses for rend enchantments and potentially other options...

Jackell · May 09, 2005, 01:23 PM // 13:23

I have a R/Ele, and I'm good at pvping, just so long as there's warriors and monks to take the heat off of me. I only use one Elementalist skill (gee, I wonder which one), so I'm basically just pure ranger. But my skillbar is set up for three things.

Support my high damage dealers by with 2 strong attacks and a preperation, thereby helping them dropp their target faster.

3 interupts to stop casters from doing their thing, even though I probably won't kill them.

1 slow down to get targets away from my monks.

As a ranger, I realize that, even though I do good damage, I am there to support. To help solidify the rest of my team and round them out. Not too many rangers understand that concept. When we talk about what ranger skills do the most damamge and what ranger builds are high damage, I just hope people will understand the concept mentioned before and take that into consideration as well.

Bigb04202 · May 09, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51

I am a Ra/Me and out about 15 to 20 hours into PvP. I sucked real bad at first do to ranger lack of skills at the beginning and not know how to play. Now I reek havoc in PvP. I believe the Ra/Me is the mage killer I haven’t found one mage to take me on one on one do to the skills Backfire and distracting shot. You spam distracting shot on any mage / monk there usually dead. They run you cripple them and fish them off. I’m not saying that I am the best or no mage can kill me one on one. All I am saying is when you play the ranger right and bring the right skills to PvP he a force to be reckoned with.

The Red Knight · May 09, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Rangers are a more skillfull class then playing a cookie cutter w/mo. rangers are also very hard to build correctly, because there is so much you can do with them.

Xphile · May 09, 2005, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Rangers can be very very good depending on what you are trying to do.

If your standing toe to toe and trying to duke it out, your right most likely you'll get owned.

A ranger / mez is extremely good against spell casters though. Usually when I go into PvP I'll either find a spell caster that wandered too far away from a monk, or I'll concentrate on the monk. They really hate backfire and distracting shot.

In PvE I'm 90% of the time the last guy alive on the team, even when I'm tanking. It all depends on how you play the game. Get somewhere up high so you can do more damage per shot, you have longer range so you should be able to hit their spell casters / healers that are behind the rushing warriors.

I especially love any area with undead, as the monk I always party with (he is the XO of my guild) gives me holy damage so I'm doing 140+ dmg per shot.

Wyld Kard · May 09, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

This might be a lil off topic but do rangers need a pet? and also I have been wanting to play a ranger due to my well bordome of slice and dice method of playing with my warrior. I am looking for a good balanced ranger build that is a good asset to the team. my guild mates have suggested eaither going ele or mes or necro for my secondary so out of those three which would you guys/gals say would be best. now the only technique i know on using a ranger is gaining high ground and moving around alot while the tanks hold them in place. so plz help me decide plz...